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Michael Schumacher has revealed that tyre degradation is an area where Mercedes must improve, as well as admitting that some of the team's chief rivals were getting better mileage out of the Pirelli rubber.

Schumacher completed 79 laps during Friday's testing, setting his best time late in the day, on the first flying lap of one of several short runs on Pirelli's soft compound tyre.

However, in the same eight-lap stint as the German set his quickest time, he lost almost four seconds, the first two seconds lost within five laps.

While Schumacher played down the Mercedes' tyre usage, he did point it out as an area for improvement before the Australian Grand Prix.

"The best is if you have [no degradation]," he said. "Everybody has some. I don't know where we are compared to the others, but I have seen some can do better. So, certainly, we can improve."

Despite causing two red flags during the morning's running, Schumacher was upbeat at the end of the day, claiming that the team had worked through its entire Friday programme.

"It was a bit of a slow start in the morning," he added. "We stopped twice ourselves, and had other red flag issues, but the afternoon was straightforward. We made most of the work we needed to do, so it's okay."

Schumacher wound out the day eighth fastest, 1.3s behind Romain Grosjean's

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Nico Rosberg is confident that Mercedes will be able to "annoy" Red Bull Racing and McLaren early in the season, after his pre-season testing programme wrapped up at Barcelona today.

Rosberg will not drive the new W03 again until it arrives in Melbourne for the Australian Grand Prix, having completed his two days of testing at Barcelona. But the German is convinced that the team is in a position to improve on its fourth place finish in the 2011 constructors' championship.

"I think we're ready," he said. "It's important for us this year to progress from last year, and we're definitely able to do that. From that point of view I'm pleased, and it's exciting now to go to the first race and see where we are, and finally the talking stops.

"It's still going to be the teams from last year that we need to beat, but I think we have a good chance to annoy them a few times early in the season."

While the Mercedes' tyre degradation is one of the talking points of the test so far, Rosberg shrugged off claims that the car is using its tyres too quickly.

"It's been a positive day, on the longer runs and the shorter runs," he added.

"For the long runs, it's looking okay. No, no concerns. [Degradation] is always a limitation, but it's difficult to know where everyone is. We put in a decent long run today, and we can't really compare. But it's a good base to start off with for us. We're heading in the right direction."

Rosberg also warned that the Barcelona test might not be an accurate barometer for the opening races of the season, with very difficult conditions expected in Australia and Malaysia.

"The thing is that it's very different conditions here to what we'll have in the first few races," he said. "It will be hotter, less grip, and we got caught out a bit last year. Not caught out, but it's just difficult to test well here, and carry everything over.

"You have to be very careful, because a lot of things will just not apply for the first couple of races."

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Za Laudu, Mercedes je medju top 3 ekipe ove sezone.
Znaci nista od toga, ako on veli da je tako, onda je obrnuto.
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Nadam se da bu ovaj put pogodil :D
Bilo bi vrijeme da i on neš pogodi haha
ovo bi mogao mu biti i zicer :) Misilm da mercedes nije otkrio sve adute, i da skrivaju stvarnu brzinu bolida
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lakše bi spal kad bi rekel da je mečka sporija od trabanta
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Igor18 je napisao/la:Nadam se da bu ovaj put pogodil :D
Bilo bi vrijeme da i on neš pogodi haha
ovo bi mogao mu biti i zicer :) Misilm da mercedes nije otkrio sve adute, i da skrivaju stvarnu brzinu bolida
Bolje da nista nije govorio, jer me je sve strah pocetka sezone. ( kad se sjetim samo njegovih prognoza prosle godine, dodje mi da ne pratim F1. :roll: )

Ugl.,
Citam, Gazda izjavio da je zadovoljan brzinom, da je za njega i dalje RB najbrzi, a ostatak je tu negdje.
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After the winter break, Nico is really looking forward to the start of the new season in Australia next weekend:

“I had a perfect winter break with plenty of rest, a good training camp and a successful pre-season test programme where we were able to put a lot of mileage on our F1 W03 car. So we are really ready for the first race. I always love the atmosphere in Melbourne; it’s a great city and the fans are fantastic.”

Indeed, Nico is already out in Australasia, acclimatising in nearby New Zealand. “Before heading to Australia, I will be in New Zealand for a bike training camp to help me adjust to the time difference and the climate ‘Down Under’

No doubt, though, time will seem to drag – his excitement at getting in the car and starting driving in Albert Park is palpable… “After all of the hard work, and all of the speculation, it will be really interesting to see where we are on Saturday afternoon after qualifying.”
For Michael, the start of the season brings a sense of relief, because it means that the team can “finally stop trying to read the tea-leaves from testing and actually go racing. Melbourne is a perfect location, and the ideal place to start the season.”

Melbourne, like for everyone in the paddock, is a favourite destination: “The city loves Formula One, the fans create a great atmosphere and obviously, as drivers, we feel that too. And because we’ve already got a buzz about what’s to come, it just makes you want to get out there and start driving.”

And as for the team’s prospects this weekend, Michael is cautious – but with the confidence that the team will be building on a solid basis from testing. “During winter testing, we completed lots of miles and built up a really complete set of data, which should put us in a good position for the first race and to develop the car even further in the right direction. We’re ready for the 2012 season to begin…”
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Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn says he has not seen anything to suggest that the squad's 2012 car will not be capable of winning races.

The Brackley-based team has looked strong in winter testing, and is determined to fight for victories this year after two seasons of not quite getting on terms with the frontrunners.

Asked if he felt the new W03 had the genes of a winning Formula 1 car, Brawn replied: "I think you always believe that. You want a winning car and I have not seen anything that tells me it shouldn't be.

"Sometimes you have a car and you struggle with it and you see things that you say are not working how we expected and wanted, but certainly there is nothing about this car that says we should not achieve our ambitions - and our ambitions are to do a lot better than we have done for the past two years."

Brawn was unwilling to give a precise suggestion of where he felt Mercedes stood in the pecking order heading to Melbourne next weekend, and argued that teams' developing solutions to the rules that prevent exhaust-blown diffusers made pre-season predictions even harder than usual.

"It is difficult to judge because you don't know what fuel other people are running," Brawn said.

"When you see a car out there that starts a race stint then you have to assume that it starts on full fuel and the weights are representative and you will see an accurate model of what they are doing. Some of the race runs look good and some don't look so good, and I suspect the cars will change again before we get to Melbourne.

"Some teams have gone for a design that is clearly still blowing the exhaust in the area of the rear tyre – that may have an effect when rear tyre degradation is critical because it is much more difficult to manage where the exhaust flow goes this year than it was last year. Last year it was quite precise, this year it is more general because you cannot have the exhaust pipes to blow through the diffuser.

"There will be some interestings twists and turns over the first few races."
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u Mercedesu se nekaj ludo kuha samo nezmam oće to biti gozba za kralja ili obične splačine
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Broj zaposlenih u top F1 timovima u sezoni 2012.:

Mercedes 450
Lotus 500
Red Bull 525
Mclaren 600
Ferrari 850
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Lotus više od Mercedesa? Tko bi rekao :) ..
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dmarijon je napisao/la:Lotus više od Mercedesa? Tko bi rekao :) ..
Ono sto je iznenadjujuce je da Ferrari ima skoro duplo vise zaposlenih od Mercedesa a kiksa da smrvi jedan RB...Prosle godine je Mercedes imao 400,sada su se pojacali malo ali ipak znatno manje od Mclarena i Ferrarija.....Mislim da broj zaposlenih nije presudan ali samo do neke granice,primjer je RB koji sa 525 rasturi citav GRID,mislim da se tu moze primjeniti ona bitan je kvalitet a ne kvantitet,ali kao sto rekoh do neke granice,mislim da bi Mercedesu bilo idealno kada bi dosao na nivo RB-a i odrzavao taj nivo,mislim da bi onda jos skocili u pogledu kvaliteta ekipe
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Nije bitna kvantiteta nego kvaliteta ;)
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damjan.cule je napisao/la:Nije bitna kvantiteta nego kvaliteta ;)
upravo tako.
najvažnije je pronaći optimalan broj zaposlenih..
gledam ove brojke, Ferrari ih možda čak ima i previše
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Buba je napisao/la:Broj zaposlenih u top F1 timovima u sezoni 2012.:

Mercedes 450
Lotus 500
Red Bull 525
Mclaren 600
Ferrari 850
damjan.cule je napisao/la:Nije bitna kvantiteta nego kvaliteta ;)
ma nema to veze
sve momčadi imaju jednak ljudi koji opslužuje bolid na i oko staze, ostalo su PR i popratni resursi koji nisu izravno vezani za utrke
McL i Ferari nisu samo F1 momčadi i oni imaju druge odjele koji povremeno sudjeluju oko poslova F1, ali najviše u marketingu
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darky je napisao/la:
Buba je napisao/la:Broj zaposlenih u top F1 timovima u sezoni 2012.:

Mercedes 450
Lotus 500
Red Bull 525
Mclaren 600
Ferrari 850
damjan.cule je napisao/la:Nije bitna kvantiteta nego kvaliteta ;)
ma nema to veze
sve momčadi imaju jednak ljudi koji opslužuje bolid na i oko staze, ostalo su PR i popratni resursi koji nisu izravno vezani za utrke
McL i Ferari nisu samo F1 momčadi i oni imaju druge odjele koji povremeno sudjeluju oko poslova F1, ali najviše u marketingu
@damjan.cule - pa napisao sam u postu posle kada sam odgovarao dmarijon-u upravo da je bitan kvalitet a ne kvantitet :)
@darky - kada je Mercedes povecao broj zaposlenih sa 400 na 450 za ovu sezonu cisto sumnjam da je zaposljavao PR menadzere,cistacice i slicno,to im sigurno nece donijeti koju desetinku po krugu,mozda jeste broj ljudi u padoku priblizan ali u tvornicama broj inzenjera koje sjede za CFD racunalima i provode vrijeme u zracnom tunelu,njih ni blizu nije isti broj,a tu je ono gdje se dragocjene desetinke nabiru ;)
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Tih Ferrarijevih 300 (pre)više su taman oni koji će tokom prvih nekoliko utrka od (možda) nekonkurentnog bolida napraviti konkurenta. Bitan je kvalitet, to da. Ali opet...
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dmarijon je napisao/la:Tih Ferrarijevih 300 (pre)više su taman oni koji će tokom prvih nekoliko utrka od (možda) nekonkurentnog bolida napraviti konkurenta. Bitan je kvalitet, to da. Ali opet...
a šta je tih 300 ljudi radilo do sada?
što je više ljudi u nekoj firmi, teže je sve kontrolirati na kvalitetan način, možda su svi ti ljudi zaista i potrebni, možda svaki od njih ima točno određenu ulogu no svejedno, u odnosu na ostatak broj zaposlenih je ogroman a znaš kak se veli sto baba kilavo dijete :D u ovom slučaju bolid

mogu samo nagađat, ne znam kakav je omjer zaposlenih bio u razdoblju od 00-05 ali dali je moguće da Ferrari jednostavno nije dobro napravio selekciju ljudi u tvornici, od najvišeg do najnižeg nivoa i da je tu razlog pada?
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2009. kada su napravili ono cudo tehnologije Brawn GP je imao 700 zaposlenih,odnosno zime 2008.
Posle su tek krenula otpustanja.Na tom bolidu radjeno je skoro dvije godine u dva zracna tunela i stvarno je bio nesto nevjerovatno.
Onda je nastao taj rez na 400 ljudi kada je preuzeo Brawn,zamislite tog manjka u fabrici kada skoro svaki drugi covjek vise ne radi...
Kada je preuzeo Mercedes mislili su zadrzati taj nivo medjutim kada su vidjeli da ne mogu stici RB,Mclaren i Ferrari onda su odlucili se malo pojacati,da li je to malo dovoljno vidjecemo za otprilike dva dana i par sati kada pocinju prvi treninzi u melburnu....volio bih da jeste ali sam i dalje misljenja da im treba jedan Newey da kompenzuje manjak ljudstva,mislim da bi kombinacija Newey-Brawn unistila sve pred sobom :)
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Što je više njih to ih je teže kontrolirati. Mnogi htjeli oni to ili ne počnu hvatati krivine.
450 ljudi koliko god bilo "malo" tj najmanje je opet ogroman broj ljudi koji mogu i sposobni su složiti bolid dostojan osvajanja naslova prvaka i konstruktora.
Također nije spomenuto koliko opreme imaju na raspolaganju od tvornica, tunela i raznih ostalih pomagala koje su neophodne za sklopit jedan vrhunski auto. Pretpostavljam da svi imaju bar jedan hangar :)
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Mercedes' hopes of delivering on its strong winter testing form have received a boost, with the FIA confirming ahead of the Australian Grand Prix that a radical wing concept the team has pioneered is fully legal.

The Brackley-based outfit stirred up interest from its rivals throughout pre-season testing with its W03 featuring its own version of a rear-wing F-duct concept - that some suspected was activated by vents being opened when the upper wing elements moves during DRS activation.

It is understood that rival teams queried the legality of such a system – which vents the air through the endplates and in to the main plane, to help stall the wing and boost straight-line speed – with the FIA.

However, despite the way the system effectively makes use of driver movement when he activates the DRS, the FIA has no doubts that it complies with the regulations.

When asked by AUTOSPORT to clarify the situation, the head of the FIA's F1 technical department Charlie Whiting said: "Some teams are questioning it on the basis that they thought F-ducts were banned. Well, F-ducts are not banned.

"At the end of 2010 everyone was using driver operated F-ducts and the regulations that were changed specifically banned the use of driver movement to influence the aerodynamic performance of the car – that got rid of that generation of so-called F-ducts.

"At the beginning of last year, with engineers being unable to unlearn things, they wanted to try and get the effect via different means, and they talked about opening and closing a duct by having interaction with the suspension. We said no, you cannot do that because that is not the primary purpose of the suspension system – which is to insulate the car from undulations in the road.

"There was then a lengthy discussion in the TWG at the beginning of last year about that, to make sure everyone was clear about it. It seems a couple of teams went away from that meeting with the impression that F-ducts were banned in general. Whatever an F-duct is. But they are not."

Whiting would not reveal further details of how the Mercedes system works, but said that he viewed it as completely passive.

"What it appears some teams are doing is that when the DRS is operated, it will allow air to pass into a duct and do other things," he explained.

"That is all I can say – you will probably have a pretty good idea of what it might be doing, and other teams will as well. But it is completely passive. There are no moving parts in it; it doesn't interact with any suspension. No steering, nothing. Therefore I cannot see a rule that prohibits it."
Jel to uvedeno na marcedes prosle godine ili je to ovogodišnja novotarija ? :?:
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Mislim da je ovogodišnja, osim ak nisu u zadnjih par utrka testirali kako i na koji način ukomponirat to na bolid
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