MotoGP/WSBK/MotoE

[dmarijon]

Hvala! top 3 tima - honda odustala od tri motora, vozači isti. posložili se novi timovi. ali, najviše me zanima kako će se ove godine rossi i ducati snaći.
moto 2. ako ove godine marquez ne pomete konkurenciju, sve ostali bit će malo čudo

[zvjerko]

...

U Superbike vidim da nema Hage, nisam provjeravao šta se tu događa.
...

Izgleda da će vozit kod engleza ...

Niall Mackenzie says:

"Don't rule out seeing Nitro Nori in BSB on a Ducati..It came from a reliable source!"

https://twitter.com/niallmackenzie1

[gringo73]

Evo kako stvari stoje što se testiranja tiče:





Ant West se prije nekoliko sati obratio svojim navijačima: I (ANTHONY WEST) will not race in moto gp this year or any other race because I can not find sponsorship to pay the SPEED MASTER team,
Because all teams are asking for money from the riders only the rich can race in motogp / moto2 / moto3,
I can not even afford to ride a year for free,
As i have YET to be payed from my former team MZ Germany Moto2 team.
I had my car mx bike and my house for sale trying to keep the ride and even gave the house as a guarantee if I did not find the money but was not enough.
I will most likely not race any more and will retune back to australia to find a normal job.
Sorry to my fans.

Slični problemi muče i Yonni Hernandeza (ne znam kakav mu je sad status) i Sergia Gadeu... lova, lova

EDIT: Upravo čitam da na njegovo mjesto dolazi Mattia Pasini.

[Dani]

Ovo mi se ne sviđa: Ducati plays down test expectations

[dmarijon]

Šta je s Hondom i Yamahom? Ne zna se? Yamaha je zadnjih godina imala osjećaj za prijenos snage na asfalt, šta ne? Mogli bi oni profitirati...

[gringo73]

Evo vremena prvog dana testiranja u Sepangu:

1. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m01.657s 30
2. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m02.003s + 0.346s 48
3. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 2m02.221s + 0.564s 32
4. Ben Spies Yamaha 2m02.234s + 0.577s 28
5. Valentino Rossi Ducati 2m02.392s + 0.735s 43
6. Andrea Dovizioso Tech 3 Yamaha 2m02.751s + 1.094s 20
7. Hector Barbera Pramac Ducati 2m02.773s + 1.116s 41
8. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha 2m02.829s + 1.172s 32
9. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m02.869s + 1.212s 45
10. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m03.151s + 1.494s 33
11. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m03.668s + 2.011s 44
12. Karel Abraham Cardion Ducati 2m03.781s + 2.124s 45
13. Franco Battaini Ducati 2m04.986s + 3.329s 35
14. Kousuke Akiyoshi Honda 2m07.163s + 5.506s 4
15. Colin Edwards Forward Suter-BMW 2m08.240s + 6.583s 21
16. Jordi Torres Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m10.671s + 9.014s 42
17. Ivan Silva Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m11.267s + 9.610s 12

(kad poslušam/pročitam izjave, onda ću dodat komentar)

[Dani]

Tooo rista Yamahe na prvi pogled dominiraju. Jedino je problem kaj Stoner nije vozio.

Evo Yamahe. Nekako ima kratku "guzu".

[dmarijon]

A da. Pedrosa između prve dvije yamahe, a Stonera ni nema.

[Dani]

Navodno ga leđa ukočila.

[gringo73]

Vremena 2. dana:

1. Casey Stoner Honda 2m00.895s 29
2. Ben Spies Yamaha 2m01.052s + 0.157s 37
3. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m01.068s + 0.173s 40
4. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m01.508s + 0.613s 35
5. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 2m01.565s + 0.670s 42
6. Hector Barbera Pramac Ducati 2m01.788s + 0.893s 50
7. Valentino Rossi Ducati 2m01.886s + 0.991s 44
8. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m01.933s + 1.038s 46
9. Andrea Dovizioso Tech 3 Yamaha 2m02.160s + 1.265s 42
10. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m02.354s + 1.459s 41
11. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m02.414s + 1.519s 41
12. Karel Abraham Cardion Ducati 2m02.598s + 1.703s 66
13. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha 2m02.941s + 2.046s 40
14. Franco Battaini Ducati 2m04.311s + 3.416s 38
15. Colin Edwards Forward Suter-BMW 2m05.603s + 4.708s 37
16. Ivan Silva Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m10.297s + 9.402s 16
17. Jordi Torres Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m11.893s + 10.998s 2
18. Robertino Pietri Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m12.546s + 11.651s 5

Honda je radila na usporedbi šasija, radili su na kočnicama, uglavnom zadovoljni su novim motorom. Kao "problem" spominju chattering, pretpostavljam da je to trzanje, jer nisu sigurni jel do spojke (kvačila) ili nešto drugo. Uglavnom, Stoner govori da je motor precizniji prilikom skretanja u zavoj.
Yamaha je bez nekih većih nedostataka, i uglavnom se radi na poboljšavanju onog što je tu. Dobar dio novih djelova nije isproban, tako da ni motor nie još došao do limita. Neka predviđanja prije 2-3 tjedna su govorila da bi 1000 trebala biti bliža Spiesu nego Lorenzu. Istu stvar govore i za Crutchlowa, kao SBK pozadinu... bumo videli.
Ducati je sigurno napravio dobar napredak (kočenje, ulazak u zavoj) Rossi govori da su određene potrebne, ali ne velike, kao što je to bilo potrebno sa prošlogodišnjim motorom. Govori da je od 4-5 večih problema koje su imali lani, pola riješeno. Ali da je s ovim modelom puno lakše neke stvari popraviti. Uglavnom je poprilično pozitivan. Hayden je imao problema s ramenom, na to se žalio i 1. dan tako da nije baš bio koristan.

[Armanini]

dobra vremena..
i barbera u sekundi..
ove kawe su ta nova cuda?.. koji k ce to u istoj utrci.. to nije konkurencija ni sbku..
bit ce dosta plavih zastava i u moto gpu

[gringo73]

Vremena zadnjeg dana:

1. Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1m59.607s 21
2. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 2m00.198s + 0.591 35
3. Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 2m00.256s + 0.649 26
4. Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 2m00.495s + 0.888 16
5. Valentino Rossi Ducati Team 2m00.824s + 1.217 42
6. Hector Barbera Pramac Racing Team 2m00.929s + 1.322 40
7. Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m01.108s + 1.501 26
8. Andrea Dovizioso Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m01.257s + 1.650 40
9. Alvaro Bautista San Carlo Honda Gresini 2m01.384s + 1.777 34
10. Nicky Hayden Ducati Team 2m01.729s + 2.122 19
11. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m01.894s + 2.287 38
12. Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 2m02.218s + 2.611 38
13. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Factory 2m02.334s + 2.727 27
14. Franco Battaini Ducati Team 2m03.033s + 3.426 35
15. Colin Edwards NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2m04.722s + 5.115 36
16. Ivan Silva Avintia Racing 2m08.225s + 8.618 41
17. Robertino Pietri Avintia Racing 2m09.640s + 10.033 16
18. Jordi Torres Avintia Racing 2m10.184s + 10.577 29

Opći dojmovi testiranja, vozači top 3 momčadi:
- Casey Stoner (Repsol Honda): "It's been a good test in general, we only managed two out of the three days unfortunately but the weather has been really good to us and we've been able to do what we planned. The day I missed hasn't affected us too much and we've managed to complete our testing programme, to be honest I think track conditions on the first day weren't that great anyway as the lap times were not so fast. I'm still not feeling great with my back but the bike is ok, so we've made progress in reducing the chatter a little more and trying a few different things, some small settings on the shock that we haven't tried before amongst other points. So far it's been pretty positive, we'll just have to wait and see what we have for the next test and hopefully improve a little more. Now I'm looking forward to getting home to Switzerland to see Adriana and await the arrival of our baby!"

- Dani Pedrosa (Repsol Honda): "Three days testing here in Malaysia is very tiring. This morning when I woke up I was pretty sore and stiff, but once I got running I was a little bit better. Anyway, it’s been worth it to do a general test of the engine, chassis and tyres and overall it is the biggest test we have done on this bike and we have good data to analyse and can start to build up points we need for the second test. As I said yesterday, the biggest point to improve is on braking, and we are also working on the electronics to improve the management of the power and the grip level. The chatter is still there, I know it's something very difficult to fix, but I’m sure Honda is working hard on it. In general, it’s been a positive test for us and we will come back here in three weeks with new ideas. This bike is physically more demanding, you feel the power in the acceleration, the speed under hard braking and also the extra weight, but it’s alright. I will keep wor king hard physically to prepare for the second test."

- Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha Factory Racing): "I’m really, really satisfied, I have improved on my best record here in Sepang. We tried a lot of things; some were better, especially one major improvement. We also know where we have to improve in the future. The electronics are not perfect yet, we still need to make it smoother but the bike has so much potential we are optimistic. The Yamaha engineers worked really hard and they have done a good job. I made my best time today at midday which is the hardest time with the conditions so it was pretty good. Let’s see what we can do when we come back".

- Ben Spies (Yamaha Factory Racing): "It’s been a good test, we’ve got a lot of things accomplished, we’re definitely moving in the right direction with my bike. I tried the Yamaha test rider’s bike today which had a slightly different set up to make a fair comparison with mine. I made a small mistake, losing the front but that’s testing; it can happen when you’re working out the good and bad! All in all it’s been great and I’m really happy and looking forward to coming back and seeing what’s new".

- Valentino Rossi (Ducati): "We on the team are all happy with how this test has gone, especially today. With a 2’00.8, we’re starting to get to a decent time. The two Hondas and the two Yamahas are still ahead of us, but we consider this test to be a starting point. The most positive things we’ve achieved are that the front now lets me ride a little more as I like, and the bike reacts well to changes and that we have very clear ideas on what’s still missing. In particular, if we manage to improve the bike’s behaviour on acceleration, we’ll be able to take a consistent step forward. I know that the work has never stopped at Ducati, and now with the information we’ve gathered, they’ll keep working on the areas that we’ve identified. That might take a while, but there’s still some time before the first race. We have to keep improving, so we’re not getting too excited, but I’m pleased with how things have gone so far".

-Nicky Hayden (Ducati): "Obviously, I’d like to have done more. I can’t really say it was a real test for me, but I did a few laps each morning in order to at least get a feel for the new bike, get a little data and understand a couple of things. Even in that limited time, I was able to make small improvements and go quicker each day. Ducati did an amazing job with this bike in a short amount of time. It’s smoother than any other Ducati I’ve ever ridden, it looks slick and it’s good to work on. It’s got good power, and the front end is working well, but with the extra power, now we’ve got to find better rear traction at the first touch of the throttle. With the few adjustments we’ve made, everything seems to be going in a good way, so now I just need to get healthy".

[dmarijon]

Kao da gledam reprizu prošle godine. 90%

[Dani]

Ma nije baš tako. Prošle godine je Yamaha razvaljivala na testiranjima. Mene veseli činjenica da su sve Yamahe u vrhu i da je po riječima Lorenza još potrebno samo doraditi elektroniku. Pretpostavljam da će ključ u utrkama biti potrošnja goriva i guma. Mislim da tu leži prednost Yamahe.

[Cuky]

Što je sa ovim Ducatijem? Oni su svaki dan sve viđe i više iza :O

[zvjerko]

...
Kao "problem" spominju chattering, pretpostavljam da je to trzanje, jer nisu sigurni jel do spojke (kvačila) ili nešto drugo. ...

Vibracije ogibljenja, obično prednjeg iako nije strana pojava ni na zadnjem kotaču ali se lakše riješava (elektronika, daj gas/pusti gas) ... može biti povezano sa prilagodbom na novu konstrukciju guma jer mislim da nisu promijenili samo mješavinu već i konstrukciju tako da drugačija deformacija pri opterećenju proizvodi i drugačiju frekvenciju koju treba usaglasiti sa amortizerima ...

[Dani]

Stoner blasts 'late' rule change

[gringo73]

...
Kao "problem" spominju chattering, pretpostavljam da je to trzanje, jer nisu sigurni jel do spojke (kvačila) ili nešto drugo. ...

Vibracije ogibljenja, obično prednjeg iako nije strana pojava ni na zadnjem kotaču ali se lakše riješava (elektronika, daj gas/pusti gas) ... može biti povezano sa prilagodbom na novu konstrukciju guma jer mislim da nisu promijenili samo mješavinu već i konstrukciju tako da drugačija deformacija pri opterećenju proizvodi i drugačiju frekvenciju koju treba usaglasiti sa amortizerima ...

Zvjerko, hvala na pojašnjenju.
Ducatijev dvojac je išao pod nož nakon testiranja; Hayden na operaciju ramena (na koje se žalio na testiranju, a nije očekivao probleme) i Rossi na uklanjanje šipke iz desne noge (posljedica onog pada u Mugellu).
Čitam da postoji mogućnost da Suzuku nastupi na par trka 2013. kao wild card.

[dmarijon]

U novom autoklubu čitam da je Rossi zadovoljan s ponašanjem novog Ducatija (kako su odustali od karbonske šasije), bez obzira na veći zaostatak.

[gringo73]

Lorenzo gleda u kristalnu kuglu:

“In MotoGP I think that the fight for the title will be between Stoner, Pedrosa and me. But I'm sure that Spies, Rossi, Dovizioso and Bautista will do a great season.
“In Moto2, Marquez, Elias and Terol. Although I hope that my friend Ricky Cardus could give a surprise.
“In the new Moto3 class, I think that the fight for the title will be a fight between Viñales, Oliveira and Faubel.”

[Dani]

Lorenzo practices for bike license test

Haha Lorenzo polaže vozački ispit za motor. Prošao je teoriju, sada ga čeka praksa.

[dmarijon]

ha ha! ...
A Elias - vrluda i vrluda. Možda 2013. bude vozio u Moto 3

[gringo73]

ha ha! ...
A Elias - vrluda i vrluda. Možda 2013. bude vozio u Moto 3

Ne može, izvan gabarita je....vozači ne smiju bit stariji od 28 godina.

[zvjerko]

Prvo čestitke Adriani i Caseyeu na prinovi link ... mislim da Casey više nikad neće zaboravit Valeov rođendan ...

[Dani]

BSB - Bin Laden gets British Superbike ride

Biti će opasno haha.