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Hmm, zanimljivo samo kaj za 1 stop bude potrebna pasivna voznja naci bez napadanja i bilo cega takvoga. Al opet Buttonu bi to moglo uspjeti
Hm... gumbić možda ovisi kako će se rasplesti situacija na startu i na kojoj poziciji će biti pa onda eventualno ako je negdje izvan prve četvorice pa da proba tom taktikom.
Ali dam se kladit da će jedan ili oba Saubera biti na 1 stopu.
Dobro Sauber mozda i uspije ak su u Australiji uspjeli. Al jos jemput cisto sumljam ko bu vozil napadalacki minimum je 2 ulaska. Prema svemu sudeci ja se nadam da Hamilton u Q3 ide na hard gumam jer kad je odvozil u SP2 najbolji krug na soft bilo je "tyre is out" tak da mozda bolje da ide na Hard.

@ELESSAR Mercedes se je priblizil Mclarenu i Lotus-Renou al prema svemu kak je mislim da jos niko nije dosel red bull nazalost, ponadal sam da bude mclaren tik uz red bull ali budemo vidli u qulif tam se bude najbolje vidlo
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Ne vjerujem da bi Hamilton Q3 išao na hard gumama. Ne vidim zašto bi išao sa hendikepom od 1 sekunde kolko su te gume sporije i kvalificirao se oko 7-8 mjesta.. Nema smisla.
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Igor18 je napisao/la:Ne vjerujem da bi Hamilton Q3 išao na hard gumama. Ne vidim zašto bi išao sa hendikepom od 1 sekunde kolko su te gume sporije i kvalificirao se oko 7-8 mjesta.. Nema smisla.
A dobro imas parf, al opet ovisi kak budu gume reagirale, ujedno nije bitno vidli bumo. Ja se samo nadam pobjedi Hamiltona i da red bull nebude u bodovima :)
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Igor18 je napisao/la:Ne vjerujem da bi Hamilton Q3 išao na hard gumama. Ne vidim zašto bi išao sa hendikepom od 1 sekunde kolko su te gume sporije i kvalificirao se oko 7-8 mjesta.. Nema smisla.
A dobro imas parf, al opet ovisi kak budu gume reagirale, ujedno nije bitno vidli bumo. Ja se samo nadam pobjedi Hamiltona i da red bull nebude u bodovima :)
I ja se tome nadam :biggrin: A pobjedit može ko hoće.. Može i Schumi hehe :D
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Čist sumnjam da će biti moguće jedno zaustavljanje za bilo koga. Kina ima dva desna zavoja od 270°, to će požderati lijeve gume.
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Brijem da je gotovo prvenstvo. :D
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Slash je napisao/la:Brijem da je gotovo prvenstvo. :D
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Slash je napisao/la:Brijem da je gotovo prvenstvo. :D
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Re: VN Kine, Shanghai International Circuit, 15.-17.4.2011.

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Slash je napisao/la:Brijem da je gotovo prvenstvo. :D
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Kolega, pa tek su 2 utrke prošle. Stvarno misliš da je bilo šta odlučeno. Već ove nedjelje Vettelova prednost može pasti na svega nekoliko bodova ako Hamilton ili Button pobjede a kreveljko ima loš rezultat ili još bolje DNF.
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Slash je napisao/la:Brijem da je gotovo prvenstvo. :D
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Kolega, pa tek su 2 utrke prošle. Stvarno misliš da je bilo šta odlučeno. Već ove nedjelje Vettelova prednost može pasti na svega nekoliko bodova ako Hamilton ili Button pobjede a kreveljko ima loš rezultat ili još bolje DNF.
Ako, ako...Previše je tu ako. Dominacija je evidentna, već vidim da Vettel uzima pole, a u utrci opet treba čudo čekat da NE pobjedi. Ne znam, malo mi je to previše čuda da ne bi osvojio naslov. Do negdje 7. mjeseca kak je krenulo...
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Slash je napisao/la: Ako, ako...Previše je tu ako. Dominacija je evidentna, već vidim da Vettel uzima pole, a u utrci opet treba čudo čekat da NE pobjedi. Ne znam, malo mi je to previše čuda da ne bi osvojio naslov. Do negdje 7. mjeseca kak je krenulo...
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04:06 So one RB7 is running fine and the other has problems, but the McLarens will keep Vettel honest in qualifying. Join us for more later.

04:05 Mark Webber didn't get a late soft tyre run and slipped to an eventual 15th place in the classification after enduring a nightmare session.

04:04 Petrov was seventh for Renault, ahead of Sutil eighth, Schumacher ninth and di Resta rounds out the top 10.

04:03 Lewis Hamilton was third with Rosberg fourth, Alonso fifth and Massa sixth. The Brazilian is 1.003s down on Vettel's benchmark time.

04:02 The late laps leave Lotus well clear of the Virgin pair, who today do manage to beat both HRT men.

04:02 Vettel tops the final practice session at Shanghai with a single soft tyre flying lap of 1m34.968s, two-tenths clear of Jenson Button.

04:01 Alonso completes a late lap to move up to fifth fastest.

04:01 D'Ambrosio has run wide at Turn 13, damaging the front wing and forcing the Belgian back into the pits.

04:01 Adrian Sutil is on his last lap on soft tyres but has to negotiate D'Ambrosio's Virgin car. He moves up to seventh with 1m36.125s.

04:00 Heidfeld hauls himself up from 19th to ninth with a late effort as the flag comes out.

03:59 Vettel remains on top with less than a minute to go ahead of the McLaren pairing.

03:58 Hamilton tops the final sector and moves up to third quickest, four tenths off Vettel's benchmark.

03:58 Hamilton has regrouped after that earlier off and is on another flying lap attempt.

03:57 Petrov cuts through heavy traffic in the final sector to grab fifth fastest in his Renault.

03:57 Vettel is straight back into the pits after that run. Three laps in total - one flying lap on the soft tyre.

03:57 The Australian misses out on a soft tyre evaluation and looked understandably disappointed with the situation.

03:56 Kobayashi grabs seventh fastest with soft tyres on his Sauber.

03:56 Mark Webber is out of the car as work continues on his RB7. He won't get a final run this morning.

03:55 Hamilton has been off the road at Turn 2, running wide and spoiling his attempt on the soft tyres.

03:55 Vettel crosses the line and beats Button by just over two-tenths with 1m34.968s.

03:54 Button completes soft tyre attempt now and briefly tops the times in 1m35.176s, but Vettel is faster.

03:54 Vettel immediately posts 25.0s through the first sector of the lap. Stand-by for the Red Bull to top the order in a moment ...

03:53 Massa goes second to Rosberg with a 1m35.971s in his Ferrari.

03:52 Massa is on to his soft tyre lap but there is a bit more traffic around now - although he is fastest through the first sector.

03:52 Rosberg and Alguersuari come out for their final run.

03:52 It's a 1m36.246s from Alonso, moving up to fourth fastest with that soft tyre attempt.

03:52 Vettel joins the racetrack to begin his third and final run this morning. We expect soft tyres this time.

03:50 Alonso starts his flying lap on soft tyres with a clear track ahead of him - Barrichello is the only other man out at the moment.

03:50 Buemi is wheeled back into the garage after a decent soft tyre run. He is fifth with a best lap time of 1m36.717s.

03:49 Alonso heads out for a run on the soft compound tyres.

03:49 Rosberg leads the pack with 11 minutes remaining, with Vettel second, Schumacher third, Button fourth, Buemi fifth and Webber in sixth.

03:47 Webber returns to the pits after a short run of three laps. He did not use KERS during that run.

03:46 Vettel returns to the pits. A five lap run there for the world champion, with no improvement to his lap time. He remains in second place.

03:45 Webber crosses the line in 1m36.896s on hard tyres and slots into sixth position.

03:45 Most of the leading contenders are now back in the pits ahead of a late run on the soft tyres.

03:45 Rubens Barrichello improves to sixth place with 1m37.045s, as we see Webber coming towards the end of his first timed lap.

03:44 Alguersuari's lap was with the benefit of soft tyres, but he makes a hash of his second effort by running wide onto the astroturf exiting the final corner.

03:43 Button completes his 10th lap on the harder tyres with a 1m36.307s as a slight improvement on his fourth-fastest time.

03:42 Mark Webber is back out onto the circuit as Alguersuari posts 1m36.953s and moves up to fifth position.

03:42 Rosberg drives for the line and posts 1m35.677s to top the order with 18 minutes to go.

03:41 Rosberg is also on soft tyres and set to go quicker than his team-mate at the conclusion of this latest lap.

03:40 Michael Schumacher goes second to Vettel with the benefit of soft tyres, with a lap of 1m36.141s.

03:40 Webber's mechanics are paying attention to the front right corner of the car, as Vettel starts to wind up the pace on his second run.

03:39 Meanwhile, Button, Hamilton and Alonso are all out for further running on the harder tyres.

03:38 Adrian Newey is monitoring events with a close eye, as the KERS related 'Keep clear' sign sits atop Webber's car.

03:37 While problems ensue for Webber, his team-mate Vettel heads out to begin his second run.

03:36 Webber is immediately wheeled back into the garage and the mechanics descend on the RB7.

03:35 Mark Webber is running very slowly on the circuit and has also been off without damage at Turn 6. He aborts the run and returns to the pits.

03:35 Adrian Sutil locks up the fronts heavily on the run to Turn 14 and sails out wide to the asphalt run-off area. He is able to continue.

03:34 Massa improves to fifth quickest with a 1m37.493s in his Ferrari.

03:33 Mark Webber rolls out of the Red Bull garage to begin his first run of the morning.

03:33 Kobayashi is fifth with Alonso sixth, Petrov seventh, Massa eighth, Alguersuari ninth and Perez 10th with less than 27 minutes remaining.

03:33 Alonso beats Petrov with a 1m37.555s lap, but Kobayashi is now ahead of the Ferrari in fifth.

03:32 The top four are all back in after the first run. Vettel leads the classification with 1m36.053s, ahead of Button, Rosberg and Hamilton.

03:31 Hamilton pits, abandoning what looked to be a quicker lap than his current fourth-fastest time.

03:31 Mark Webber remains in the pits with only an installation lap completed so far.

03:31 Four laps for Vettel on his first run. Similar strategy to yesterday with a reasonably quick first flyer, then a really hot lap to top the order.

03:30 Hamilton sets the fastest first sector now, five laps into his run on the prime rubber.

03:30 Petrov pips Alonso to fifth with hard tyres on his Renault.

03:29 Schumacher completed seven laps on his first run of the day, with a best time of 1m38.191s. He lies ninth in the classification.

03:29 Alonso takes fifth fastest with an opening laptime of 1m37.780s.

03:28 Alonso and Massa are now on track in the Ferraris.

03:28 Vettel crosses the line in 1m36.053s to top the pile by over eight-tenths of a second.

03:28 Hamilton is shuffled down to fourth fastest with his first effort of 1m37.321s.

03:27 Vettel is third with his first effort - 1m37.255s - but is set to top the list this time round ...

03:27 Rosberg improves with 1m36.922s and lies just 0.004s behind current pacesetter Button.

03:27 Button tops the first two sectors as he sets a new benchmark at 1m36.918s on the harder tyre.

03:26 Alguersuari jumps up to fifth spot with a time of 1m38.191s.

03:25 Di Resta is back into the pits to end his first run. He completed seven laps with a best time of 1m38.526s.

03:24 Hamilton is now out for his first run of the day in his McLaren.

03:24 Schumacher is now third, with Perez fourth, di Resta fifth, Barrichello sixth and Maldonado in seventh place.

03:23 Button clocks his first time at a 1m37.367s - fastest so far.

03:23 Nico Rosberg shoots to the top of the list with 1m37.622s briefly.

03:23 Di Resta has improved to 1m38.718s but remains in second position as we see Liuzzi matching Karthikeyan's effort at Turn 14. He continues.

03:22 Button reported the track was dusty after his installation lap but is now on a first flyer after several cars have cleaned the circuit.

03:21 Button and Petrov join the growing list of drivers out on track.

03:21 Schumacher lowers the bar by almost two-tenths of a second with 1m38.345s.

03:20 Timo Glock is now third behind Schumacher and di Resta with 1m42.429s but the improvements are coming thick and fast.

03:19 Schumacher is set to take the early benchmark time ... and he does just that with 1m38.516s.

03:19 Liuzzi is now second to di Resta with a lap of 1m44.980s.

03:19 Perez joins the early runners, testing for what could be another opportunity for Sauber to one-stop in the race tomorrow.

03:18 Di Resta follows up with 1m39.710s, as Karthikeyan has problems at Turn 14. He runs wide onto the asphalt run-off but is able to continue.

03:17 Michael Schumacher is also on track for his first run of laps in the Mercedes.

03:17 Di Resta was able to correct the resultant slide and has begun another lap. Karthikeyan posts 1m45.509s to go second.

03:16 Glock is back on track in his Virgin.

03:16 The rears lock on di Resta's Force India as he slows down for Turn 14. He completes the lap in 1m40.459s.

03:15 Liuzzi comes out to join HRT team-mate Karthikeyan on the circuit.

03:15 Di Resta crosses the line and launches into his first timed lap of the day, as he catches up on track time.

03:14 Renault says it is waiting for a few cars to go out before getting its planned work underway.

03:14 Narain Karthikeyan is also on track as HRT begins the day's work.

03:13 The Scot wasn't able to get out yesterday afternoon following a fuel pressure problem.

03:13 Force India blinks first and di Resta heads out onto the circuit again.

03:12 Hamilton is sat in his McLaren waiting out what may be a lengthy pause in the action as teams hope for some early running to be completed.

03:10 No cars on track currently as the telemetry analysis continues. The teams may also be happy to wait given today's conditions for others to go first.

03:09 Clearly a timing glitch, as Glock's car is back in the Virgin garage being readied for its next run.

03:08 Glock appears to have come to a halt in the first sector, but the cameras are yet to pick up signs of a stranded Virgin car.

03:07 Michael Schumacher also ran through the pitlane and back onto the circuit. He returns to the lane at the end of his second tour.

03:05 Nico Rosberg comes into the pits and completes a pitlane time loss test before heading back out onto the track.

03:05 Hamilton's McLaren appears to be fitted with parts of the revised floor tested yesterday, which is no longer the heat-treated version.

03:04 Webber, Schumacher and Sutil are all out on the circuit to check over the condition of their cars.

03:03 Vettel arrives back in the pitlane after a single tour. He is wheeled back into the garage so that the data download and analysis can begin.

03:03 The Ferrari pair are now on track for the customary installation work.

03:02 Williams sends Barrichello and Maldonado out to check the condition of the cars.

03:01 Button heads out for an installation lap in his McLaren.

03:01 The drivers are quickly heading out. Liuzzi, Alguersuari, Buemi, Vettel and Karthikeyan are already on the circuit for an installation lap.

03:00 Kobayashi and Petrov join the early exodus from the pits.

03:00 Birthday boy Paul di Resta is the first out onto the track today.

03:00 The practice session is underway.

02:58 Hamilton is getting seated in his McLaren and is today wearing a red race suit as part of a promotion with clothing supplier Hugo Boss.

02:57 Sebastian Vettel is getting comfortable in the cockpit of the RB7 as he waits for the action to start.

02:57 Air temperature is a lowly 15 Celsius as we get going, with a track temperature of just 25 degrees.

02:56 Keep up to speed with our minute-by-minute commentary on the move with the AUTOSPORT app.

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02:54 The significantly cooler conditions today might be enough to cause the teams a headache, with the change in temperature potentially altering the conclusions on tyre performance captured during yesterday's sessions.

Pirelli's data points to significantly reduced degradation over the extremes of Malaysia, with a greater difference in durability between the two available compounds opening up strategy options for the teams.

This final hour will allow for further data to be collected before the final decisions are made on strategy for qualifying and the race.

Pirelli: One-stop Chinese GP possible

02:52 In a complete change to yesterday's muggy and somewhat smoggy conditions, it is much cooler today, but still it remains rather cloudy with a north-easterly breeze bringing temperatures down.

The nearest rain is south of the city and some 50 to 60 miles away, as the low we spoke about drives showers to the south-east and away from the circuit.

The north-easterly airflow will keep temperatures down today, with a maximum of just 16 or 17 degrees Celsius expected during qualifying.

02:50 Good morning everyone and welcome to AUTOSPORT Live for continuing coverage of the third round in the 2011 FIA Formula 1 world championship - the Chinese Grand Prix from the Shanghai International Circuit.

Red Bull got down to business yesterday with solid pace in both qualifying and race trim, yet despite the obvious speed from the RB7, question marks still hang in the air over the team's KERS and its reliability. However, the same could be said for McLaren: Jenson Button crackled over the radio during practice also with KERS concerns, while Lewis Hamilton had tyre degradation on his mind.

The chasing pack is led by Ferrari, but rather than looking forward to battling with the top two teams, Alonso and Massa will likely have to fend off strong attack this weekend from Renault and Mercedes - that is, providing Nick Heidfeld can keep his R31 on the island.

We're set up for a good day's action and it begins with final practice in around 10 minutes'
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FP3 nije bil tak los, Mclaren je uspjel biti blizu Red Bullu. Mercedes je dobar. U svakom slucaju mislim da nas ceka zanimljiv vikend. Moja prognoza za qulif bi bila 1.Hamilton, 2.Vettel, 3.Schumacher. A sad budemo vidli za manje od 36min.
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weber out....
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huh, ovo je strašno 0,7 ..... :shock:
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Više nije zabavan, stalno 1...
Najzabavnije će biti u sredini.. Schumacher (netipična greška na kočenju, mogao je lagano biti oko Rosberga u Q3), Heidfeld i Webber.
Bit će uzbudljivo gledat njih trojcu. Naprijed bu Vettel otišo i vodio od 1. do zadnjeg kruga, kao i zadnjih ne znam kolko utrka.
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Ferrari katastrofa, kvalifikacije su slaba tačka.
Ovo je jebeno presporo.
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Igor18 je napisao/la:Više nije zabavan, stalno 1...
Najzabavnije će biti u sredini.. Schumacher (netipična greška na kočenju, mogao je lagano biti oko Rosberga u Q3), Heidfeld i Webber.
Bit će uzbudljivo gledat njih trojcu. Naprijed bu Vettel otišo i vodio od 1. do zadnjeg kruga, kao i zadnjih ne znam kolko utrka.
stalno slušam "schumi je moga...", al opet rosberg opet bolji za 0.6,... moga je, al nije, a greška je možda zbog pauze i nezagrijanih guma...

sve u svemu, vettel ide pa-pa, a mclaren će krvavo čuvat postolje, jer im je race pace u rangu ferrarija... ne otpisujem rosberga, al nije merc oduševljava u utrci, bar mi je tako reka Kamui nekidan
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Ne znan šta se dogodilo pa je Webber bija tek 18. a još više me čudi odabir tvrdih guma za brzi krug?!Isto tako i tajming u Red Bullu,mogli su ga barem na 2:30 do kraja Q1 poslat,a ne čekat zadnji minut.Vettel ponovno uvjerljiv,još jedno 1. misto,više je posta dosadan :D ,ostalo isto manje više očekivano,osim naravno odličnih Torro Rossa(Buemija i Alguersuarija),i Force India.

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ELESSAR je napisao/la:
Igor18 je napisao/la:Više nije zabavan, stalno 1...
Najzabavnije će biti u sredini.. Schumacher (netipična greška na kočenju, mogao je lagano biti oko Rosberga u Q3), Heidfeld i Webber.
Bit će uzbudljivo gledat njih trojcu. Naprijed bu Vettel otišo i vodio od 1. do zadnjeg kruga, kao i zadnjih ne znam kolko utrka.
stalno slušam "schumi je moga...", al opet rosberg opet bolji za 0.6,... moga je, al nije, a greška je možda zbog pauze i nezagrijanih guma...

sve u svemu, vettel ide pa-pa, a mclaren će krvavo čuvat postolje, jer im je race pace u rangu ferrarija... ne otpisujem rosberga, al nije merc oduševljava u utrci, bar mi je tako reka Kamui nekidan
Pa mogao je. Prilika je bila, izgleda da taj Mercedes kad nema problema na bolidu može ići solidno.
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:ne: Renault... svaku utrku dosad šalju u zadnji čas, valjda da uštede na gumama. Sad im se obilo o glavu. A Kinezi preležerno miču bolid. Dok čekaju da dođe traktor, pa dok to prikopče, pa malo gledaju bolid :roll: . Da je bio takav ritam uklanjanja u utrci, imali bismo safety car desetak krugova.
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Po obicaju Williams los,najugodnije iznenađenje je Rosberg ispred 2 Ferraria,a Schumi i Weber su podbacili,usput kaj se dogodilo Weberu,nisam gledal kvalifikacije?
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