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krilca su tu da smire turbulencije u struji zraka prouzrokovane rubom šasije i retrovizorima. Zato su prije korištena ona veća krilca ispred kokpita (Renault 2007, Ferrari 2008...) koja sad nisu dozvoljena pa se snalaze u okviru pravila. Imao je i McLaren to prošle godine, samo su bila malo veća 

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Domenicali said: "At the moment the exhaust we have is the one we had in Malaysia. So we will just have to work with it and see if at the next race we are able to swap back to the other one."
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Čudo jedno kakav auto imaju... Ako je netko gledao FP1 oko pola sata do kraja imao je sta vidit... Alonsa koji na pravcu lovi svoj F2012 da nebi skupa postali palacinka... Da, bio je na vlaznoj stazi sa slick gumama ali onakva proklizavanja po ravnom ne pamtim kad sam zadnji put vidio, ako sam ikada... Sve sam pesimisticniji.. 

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Pat Fry: “There’s never a golden bullet…”
Ferrari’s chassis technical director Pat Fry says that the team has no easy way out of its current problems – and admits that the Italian outfit is reviewing the way it does things as it seeks to get back on course.
“I think we have a reasonable understanding of them and the areas we need to be working on,” said the Briton today. “It’s like all these things, there’s never a golden bullet, it’s not a light switch you can turn on. You might have the idea of, ‘OK, that’s the problem’ but it’s hard work to try and fix it. And you’re not going to change it around in a week. Everyone is working very hard to fix all those issues and then get back on a sensible development curve.
“I think there’s a number of different issues that we’ve had, the most obvious one from the early testing was the exhaust system where we were struggling with what that was doing to the rear tyres. I think we now understand that and are on top of that – though we haven’t run that style exhaust system since the first Barcelona test.
“The other areas have come to light where we knew we had the problems [but] we didn’t know where and we were really learning that through the last Barcelona test. And then to fix problems it’s not the work of a minute. Here there are quite a few new parts on the car. There will be another set of updates, bigger updates, coming through for Barcelona. It’s a race of upgrading.”
Fry didn’t want to elaborate too much on the problems: “As I said, the exhaust is one of the more obvious changes that we’ve made, but that’s quite a small part of the problem that we’ve got. I don’t really want to go into where all the problems are – it’s not just a case of us trying to build a quicker car, we need to fundamentally be changing the methodologies that we use to select, design and manufacture so that we are competitive long term.
“There’s work on all fronts, not just work going into what we’re taking to Barcelona, there’s also a huge amount of work in just trying to change the fundamentals of what we do so we can actually take a step forward and be competing with everyone else.”
Asked about where Ferrari was losing out Fry made it clear that as ever, aerodynamics was at the heart of the matter.
“The biggest performance differentiator is aerodynamics. We’ve got some issues there that we’re trying to resolve. The areas you need to be working on is everything from the way you run the wind tunnel, the accuracy of your wind tunnel, the simulation that you use to decide what components to take forward, so we’re not leaving any stone unturned.
“We’re actually trying to review and revise our methodologies through the whole process and that carries on into the design office for trying to get weight out of various parts, make other bits more durable, so there’s work going on absolutely everywhere within the company, on the basic fundamental methodology as well as just trying to upgrade the car.”
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Ferrari’s chassis technical director Pat Fry says that the team has no easy way out of its current problems – and admits that the Italian outfit is reviewing the way it does things as it seeks to get back on course.
“I think we have a reasonable understanding of them and the areas we need to be working on,” said the Briton today. “It’s like all these things, there’s never a golden bullet, it’s not a light switch you can turn on. You might have the idea of, ‘OK, that’s the problem’ but it’s hard work to try and fix it. And you’re not going to change it around in a week. Everyone is working very hard to fix all those issues and then get back on a sensible development curve.
“I think there’s a number of different issues that we’ve had, the most obvious one from the early testing was the exhaust system where we were struggling with what that was doing to the rear tyres. I think we now understand that and are on top of that – though we haven’t run that style exhaust system since the first Barcelona test.
“The other areas have come to light where we knew we had the problems [but] we didn’t know where and we were really learning that through the last Barcelona test. And then to fix problems it’s not the work of a minute. Here there are quite a few new parts on the car. There will be another set of updates, bigger updates, coming through for Barcelona. It’s a race of upgrading.”
Fry didn’t want to elaborate too much on the problems: “As I said, the exhaust is one of the more obvious changes that we’ve made, but that’s quite a small part of the problem that we’ve got. I don’t really want to go into where all the problems are – it’s not just a case of us trying to build a quicker car, we need to fundamentally be changing the methodologies that we use to select, design and manufacture so that we are competitive long term.
“There’s work on all fronts, not just work going into what we’re taking to Barcelona, there’s also a huge amount of work in just trying to change the fundamentals of what we do so we can actually take a step forward and be competing with everyone else.”
Asked about where Ferrari was losing out Fry made it clear that as ever, aerodynamics was at the heart of the matter.
“The biggest performance differentiator is aerodynamics. We’ve got some issues there that we’re trying to resolve. The areas you need to be working on is everything from the way you run the wind tunnel, the accuracy of your wind tunnel, the simulation that you use to decide what components to take forward, so we’re not leaving any stone unturned.
“We’re actually trying to review and revise our methodologies through the whole process and that carries on into the design office for trying to get weight out of various parts, make other bits more durable, so there’s work going on absolutely everywhere within the company, on the basic fundamental methodology as well as just trying to upgrade the car.”
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tesko da se moze bolid koji nije dobro napravljen ubrzati dovoljno da se dostignu brzi bolidi koji takodjer ubrzano rade..
massa je opet kukao za vrijeme practicea da je auto u k.. gledao sam kroz san pa nisam ulovio dobro.. zna li netko na sto se bunio?
massa je opet kukao za vrijeme practicea da je auto u k.. gledao sam kroz san pa nisam ulovio dobro.. zna li netko na sto se bunio?
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Znam da je na 2. treningu pitao gdje kasni. Pa su mu javili da Alonso ne koči u zavoju broj 3
. Moguće da se na ovoj stazi poboljšanja baš i neće vidjeti, jer im staza ne odgovara. Čekat ćemo Bahrein.
Istina je da i drugi napreduju, ali sigurno manje - jer već jesu na svom "top-u" za razliku od Ferrarija koji zna gdje šteka.

Istina je da i drugi napreduju, ali sigurno manje - jer već jesu na svom "top-u" za razliku od Ferrarija koji zna gdje šteka.
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zasto mislis da su na topu.. pa i ostali imaju prostora za napredovanje.. gle mcm kakvu si je spravicu stavio za testiranje iza protoka zraka na i oko difuzora..
ovo dodavanje malih krilca po bolidu me podsjeca na ducati kad je stavljao spojlercice od ispred da nekako drzi prednji kraj dole.. sve neke idejice da se pokusa napravit malo vozljivije nesto sto u naravi nije dobro slozeno..
nije bas da timovi naprave neku razliku kroz sezonu.. jedino u zadnje vrijeme mozda rbr 09, i mcm koji ce jedini preslozit cijeli bolid u mjesec dana..
moze se jos vaditi i na staze i cekat europu, al neznam ni kako ce ovaj bolid bit konkurentan ni na stazama gdje ce uvijek bit konkurentni poput monze, kad je jedan od sporijih bolida.. a ni spa..
ovo dodavanje malih krilca po bolidu me podsjeca na ducati kad je stavljao spojlercice od ispred da nekako drzi prednji kraj dole.. sve neke idejice da se pokusa napravit malo vozljivije nesto sto u naravi nije dobro slozeno..
nije bas da timovi naprave neku razliku kroz sezonu.. jedino u zadnje vrijeme mozda rbr 09, i mcm koji ce jedini preslozit cijeli bolid u mjesec dana..
moze se jos vaditi i na staze i cekat europu, al neznam ni kako ce ovaj bolid bit konkurentan ni na stazama gdje ce uvijek bit konkurentni poput monze, kad je jedan od sporijih bolida.. a ni spa..
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Jedna lijepa slika novog difuzora
Difuzor
Detalji na enplate-u na novijoj verziji prednjeg krila
Endplate
HQ slika novog stražnjeg krila
Stražnje krilo
Detalji ispuha. Ako ništa, barem više ne izgleda neuredno kao na testiranjima i prve dvije utrke
Ispuh
Malo ispod kokpita...
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Difuzor
Detalji na enplate-u na novijoj verziji prednjeg krila
Endplate
HQ slika novog stražnjeg krila
Stražnje krilo
Detalji ispuha. Ako ništa, barem više ne izgleda neuredno kao na testiranjima i prve dvije utrke
Ispuh
Malo ispod kokpita...
Splitter
“Four wheels move the body, Two wheels move the soul.”


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ovo krilo više i ne izgleda toliko flexi

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Ovo stvarno izgleda loše za Ferrari
, pitanje je da li će i Alonso uspjeti uću u Q3.

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u startnom poretku izgledaju loše. Po vremenima malo manje loše. Koliko za sada gledam početak kvalifikacija, bolid djeluje puno stabilniji nego na prve dvije utrke. Na mekšim gumama su konkurentni. Definitivno im ni staza ne odgovara (zbog max speeda gdje gube, i ne znam čega još). Ako se sve zbroji meni si ovo čini kao napredak (u odnosu na druge, naravno).
NAravno, šteta što su uništili set guma.
Ooooooooooooooo kiša upravo???!!
NAravno, šteta što su uništili set guma.
Ooooooooooooooo kiša upravo???!!

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oh kolioko samo gubimo na ravnici . 8 desetinki . aj

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Nekakav napredak je vidljiv. Dovoljno je pogledat Massu i primjetit da je on za malo promašio Q3. A ako je Massa bliže to je vjerojatno najbolji znak da se nešto pomaklo prema naprijed
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Ja ne pamtim odavno da je Ferrari-jev bolid imao tako mali top speed kao F2012.F1NAC je napisao/la:oh kolioko samo gubimo na ravnici . 8 desetinki . aj
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napredak ali minimalan zaista. nekako bolid jednostavno djeluje previse trom. bit ce pune ruke posla da se dovede zaostatak barem na 0.5
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Eh, di su ta vremena kad je F2004 dominirao na top speedu i na stazi općenitoF2004_the_best_ever je napisao/la:Ja ne pamtim odavno da je Ferrari-jev bolid imao tako mali top speed kao F2012.F1NAC je napisao/la:oh kolioko samo gubimo na ravnici . 8 desetinki . aj

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Pa može i sad ferrari potegnut 340 sigurno, samo što bi to debelo kompromitiralo grip i brzinu kroz zavoju, a s tim ovaj bolid ima velikih problema, pa je naravno bolje stavit da idu max 315, uostalom i sve ostale ekipe imaju tu istu filozofiju, nzm dal je netko isao preko 320..

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Mislim da je Martin na Sky-u rekao da je netko išao 320, samo sam zaboravio ime...
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Hvala na pomoći 
A neznam ako je netko gledao onaj Scuderia News, Pat Fry je rekao da kišni uvjeti poništavaju neke probleme kod F2012. To je vjerojatno iz razloga što se bolid podigne, ovjes omekša, a već znamo priču o naglom spuštanju visine stražnjeg kraja na prvom testu koja je za sobom povukla i tvrđe podešen ovjes od planiranog...

A neznam ako je netko gledao onaj Scuderia News, Pat Fry je rekao da kišni uvjeti poništavaju neke probleme kod F2012. To je vjerojatno iz razloga što se bolid podigne, ovjes omekša, a već znamo priču o naglom spuštanju visine stražnjeg kraja na prvom testu koja je za sobom povukla i tvrđe podešen ovjes od planiranog...
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Prije nego krenete opet sa drvljem i kamenjem, sacekajte barem izjave tima. Alonso je bio konkurentan u q2, sta se desilo u q3 ne znamo, ali cemo uskoro saznati. Mislim da je tim napravio korak naprijed, jer ne bih rekao da smo mogli u australiji prismrditi u kvalama jednom red bull-u, a ni mclaren nije daleko. q3 ne mislim da daje mjerodavnu sliku i treba ovo uzeti s rezervom.
Zao mi je jedino sto nije sacuvao gume i ostao u boxu u q3, ali ocigledno su mislili da mogu napraviti dobar rezultat. Eh sad, da li je greska alonsa ili nesto trece usralo krug, ostaje da se vidi...
A vidi se iz aviona da auto bolje lezi na stazi i da su upgrade-ovi ocigledno funkcionisali. Daj Boze da sutra gume budu solidno drzale, uz pravu strategiju i dobar start je moguc rezultat oko 5-6 mjesta, jer racunam da ce merc pasti kako utrka bude odmicala
sto se tice top speeda, pogledajte prvo top speed mclarena i red bulla, pa onda kenjajte po ferrariju
Zao mi je jedino sto nije sacuvao gume i ostao u boxu u q3, ali ocigledno su mislili da mogu napraviti dobar rezultat. Eh sad, da li je greska alonsa ili nesto trece usralo krug, ostaje da se vidi...
A vidi se iz aviona da auto bolje lezi na stazi i da su upgrade-ovi ocigledno funkcionisali. Daj Boze da sutra gume budu solidno drzale, uz pravu strategiju i dobar start je moguc rezultat oko 5-6 mjesta, jer racunam da ce merc pasti kako utrka bude odmicala
sto se tice top speeda, pogledajte prvo top speed mclarena i red bulla, pa onda kenjajte po ferrariju
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Ja mislim da ce biti Ferrari sutra dobar,Alonso je dobro vozio prvi i drugi sektor,treci zajebava..
Alonsista hasta la muerte..
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Treći zajebava. To je žrtva ove staze. Da je drugačija konfiguracija staze, Alonso bi se borio s najbržima. Ali ok, što bi bilo kad bi bilo ...
Bit će dobro, to svakako. Kiša ne treba
Bit će dobro, to svakako. Kiša ne treba
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I s ovim Ferrarijem bi Alonso mogo do 5-6 mjesta!